was there is this requirement at the time, gun safety class, which was five hours long, and you could not teach it in the city because it requires an hour at the range so you had to leave the city. there were really no restrictions. it was open ended on who could teach it, where they could teach it. it was all these men teaching it in these homes. it made me feel very unsafe. i couldn't find an instructor. in the end the city council, because of reading all this, exposing all this, the city made it virtually impossible for people to get guns in the city, the city council passed a law this year that took away that requirement, that five-hour class. and a couple other small requirements, but there's still 11 steps to gun ownership in washington which is only down from 17 when i did it. host: emily miller, who is charles sykes and what's his role in the gun-buying process in d.c.? guest: well, charles sykes is the one legal gun dealer in washington, d.c., and he's been doing it for years. he does not buy and sell. he has a very unique role which is transferring the guns, because federal law says you have to have
